tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post5708020989877234127..comments2023-11-05T01:50:18.443-07:00Comments on Into the Mound: St Patrick's FakeloreIanChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05091029307945473759noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-89101477441455460722023-03-17T07:15:52.493-07:002023-03-17T07:15:52.493-07:00I will have to say that after my research, I am in...I will have to say that after my research, I am inclined to disagree. Just like how social studies is erasing the painful past done to the Indigenous people in America, so to the media is trying erase the awful acts of this Christian Saint named Patrick deemed a Saint for driving the "snakes" which was the symbol of the ancient celts, out of ireland..mostly through burning villages and temples and that resulted in death along with raids against those who refused to leave..men, women and children. Please don't delete this just because it opposes the story you posted like you did many others. People deserve to know both sides of the argument. Blessed beAdirondackGrayWitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15020422736234794034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-49855603757488087512023-03-17T07:13:49.077-07:002023-03-17T07:13:49.077-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.AdirondackGrayWitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15020422736234794034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-56293555843896815842023-03-17T07:12:35.614-07:002023-03-17T07:12:35.614-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.AdirondackGrayWitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15020422736234794034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-48545012218361071172019-03-12T16:42:22.180-07:002019-03-12T16:42:22.180-07:00Here here!! Truly.Here here!! Truly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05650474277482988281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-4558071096973481022019-03-12T16:41:37.548-07:002019-03-12T16:41:37.548-07:00Yes!!!!Yes!!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05650474277482988281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-41549940253106170652019-03-12T16:41:10.157-07:002019-03-12T16:41:10.157-07:00His mission was considered a failure by the cathol...His mission was considered a failure by the catholic church... but I watched a movie for Catholics about him as a kid. It was all about him making druids look ridiculous in favour of the new god. Even if he wasn't directly responsible...why would any celt or pagan want to celebrate someone who helped the Christian mission of forcing them to worship the new God?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05650474277482988281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-24678787864144992752019-03-12T16:32:04.080-07:002019-03-12T16:32:04.080-07:00Celebrating a Christian white helped "convert...Celebrating a Christian white helped "convert the celts" is equal to celebrating every single Christian who forced us to be what they wanted us to be...by way of give in or dieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05650474277482988281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-69700417449274914232019-03-12T16:30:41.828-07:002019-03-12T16:30:41.828-07:00This is bs. Celebrating st patric is celebrating t...This is bs. Celebrating st patric is celebrating the loss of celts to freely practice their religion of CHOICE...let's not pretend christianity wasn't ultimately forced upon everyone. My ancestors weren't given a choice. Even if st patric isnt directly responsive for genocide...forcing christianity upon us IS. And stpatric was a part of that.unless you are Christian why WOULD you celebrate a Christian saint?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05650474277482988281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-40383890356672927252019-03-11T06:40:22.111-07:002019-03-11T06:40:22.111-07:00There was never a Pagan holocaust in Ireland cause...There was never a Pagan holocaust in Ireland caused by St. Patrick? Really? Even one of your sources states, "Quite frankly the rest of Patrick’s hagiography has him dueling Druids right and left, killing those who oppose him with callous righteousnes," maybe try actually learning what you're talking about, rather than trying to skew "sources" to say what you want them to, instead of what they actually do.Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13865126854048403456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-39252965174833014092018-03-17T16:03:01.508-07:002018-03-17T16:03:01.508-07:00Wakinyan,
I'm pretty sure the article never a...Wakinyan,<br /><br />I'm pretty sure the article never addressed any of the things you mentioned. It's specifically about St Patrick and his historical and alleged deeds. Not about what White, Christian people have done as a whole under the banners of Religion and Colonialism. Yours is one of the worst strawman arguments I've seen in awhileStian Kulystinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09343955927388915714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-30133609270386924942018-03-16T06:26:22.403-07:002018-03-16T06:26:22.403-07:00So the church never committed genocide, never murd...So the church never committed genocide, never murdered millions, never harmed the pagans in any way, probably never came to the americas and committed genocide there under their idea of "divine manifest destiny"? thanks for clearing that up for me. You cant take anything written by members of the church as serious history, they tried to cover up their crimes, and they continue to do that to this day.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09253782801249608611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-77831223693172465812018-03-09T16:13:46.775-08:002018-03-09T16:13:46.775-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09005617456625550035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-37940003774093450372017-03-18T05:12:11.206-07:002017-03-18T05:12:11.206-07:00You can't take hagiographies seriously as hist...You can't take hagiographies seriously as history. Of course the church would hope to remember their missionary as a 'fighter against evil', but I see no reason and no of no historical evidence to suggest he had any major impact in his time. I'm not the sort of interpreter to assume that if a story says that he defeated or killed a Druid in magical battle it refers to a political killing. Certainly there was not significantly less Paganism in Ireland at his death than there was on his arrival, even if there was perhaps more Christianity.<br /><br />I wouldn't doubt that Padraigh would have *wanted* to persecute Pagans, but I don't think he had the juice to actually accomplish it.<br />And of course Ireland is an exception to much of the early conversion pattern. There's not much (if any) sign of a militant conflict between the Irish natives and the developing Church. There is not a single Christian martyr from Ireland - a huge difference to, say, Frankish conversion. The process of arrival and acculturation of Christianity in Ireland is a fascinating puzzle, in which St P is just a set-piece in one corner.IanChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05091029307945473759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-8557019993477909372017-03-17T14:15:19.192-07:002017-03-17T14:15:19.192-07:00If you read his confessions, you will see how he m...If you read his confessions, you will see how he manipulated and persecuted the Pagans from a primary source. And Patrick, like many of the early Christians, probably converted the government beforehand, like kings and royal houses, because they had the power and Christianity appealed to them because of its ability to control the population. Once that was done, the highest governing powers just imposed it on all of their subjects in every way imaginable. That's exactly how they took over Rome and converted the empire, by first taking control of the government. So yes indeed, people like Patrick did persecute the Pagans in many different ways. With that being said, it's irrelevant to me what someone chooses to celebrate in their own personal lives. Do what you like. But to say there's no historic proof that Patrick persecuted Pagans, is to ignore the common tactics of the early Christian movement.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16708661585958565408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-41084801045047214402017-03-17T14:14:35.329-07:002017-03-17T14:14:35.329-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16708661585958565408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-85364968735096809102016-03-22T12:24:32.144-07:002016-03-22T12:24:32.144-07:00Thank you!! Early Catholics used genocide to fu...Thank you!! Early Catholics used genocide to further power!! (Ex: Gnostic Christians) <br /><br />Christ's message was twisted to keep in power elements of the Catholic Roman Power base....the Pope, etc.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11302028872159411636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-8069079835291821412016-03-17T11:29:20.482-07:002016-03-17T11:29:20.482-07:00I find your interpretation rather skewed. Ritualis...I find your interpretation rather skewed. Ritualistic customs, or 'religion' as most know it now, has and will always be about tradition. To label a ritual custom based on locality is political, politics is big business and business is power. You would be wise to follow what you know.. Earth, Wind, Fire, and Rain all held together by the two circles, the Sun and the Moon. The Formula of Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12386547242142939826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-42710375631444406462015-03-18T08:20:52.901-07:002015-03-18T08:20:52.901-07:00Happy St. Gertrude's Day from the cold clime o...Happy St. Gertrude's Day from the cold clime of Connecticut!!Susan Kirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17036819761635522469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-16482931647996860562015-03-16T07:39:25.915-07:002015-03-16T07:39:25.915-07:00I am an Irish pagan born reared and living in Irel...I am an Irish pagan born reared and living in Ireland and I do not celebrate the day and I am not along, many other pagans boycott it.<br /><br />So it's not bullshit.Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07309037038353116380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-29734482621846862422015-03-11T05:35:56.348-07:002015-03-11T05:35:56.348-07:00OH I forgot Thank you Ian.OH I forgot Thank you Ian.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881164150090377927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-51131989258808547692015-03-11T05:35:06.761-07:002015-03-11T05:35:06.761-07:00Celebrate don't hate. Be part of the party----...Celebrate don't hate. Be part of the party-------continue welcoming Spring.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09881164150090377927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-77336781866742234562015-03-10T22:04:25.963-07:002015-03-10T22:04:25.963-07:00Much needed. Thanks.Much needed. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-75095419945959909292015-03-10T17:10:58.054-07:002015-03-10T17:10:58.054-07:00InterestingInterestingpsychorave21https://www.blogger.com/profile/18281002567481535867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2137745883005399087.post-80504940572538683562015-03-10T14:31:32.990-07:002015-03-10T14:31:32.990-07:00well said Ian. I appreciate seeing more people spe...well said Ian. I appreciate seeing more people speaking out about this and offering good information. M.A.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16406876376042247389noreply@blogger.com